However, if Digitech added loop capability like in one of their JamMan loopers /delays, I have the Stereo Jamman Delay and it is very useful, with USB and software, for storage and editing (like their loppers/delays), and those pedals also had SDHC card storage - it could be used to set up a fairly good set list. Also agree, no real threat or replacement for BIAB, or even the almost orphaned Jammer Pro 6 (I still get emails from them and site is still up - just nothing new in years). #281216 - 01/21/15 09:24 AM Re: Digitech TRIO-Hardware-based competition for BIAB?Īgree, looks like an interesting pedal. Also, the less resistance there will be from the standard naysayers. and the more solo acts catch on, the more venues will arise to support them. The good news (for me) is that this gizmo will encourage more solo acts. as opposed to BIAB which is potentially unlimited in every direction. The biggest limitation of this device is that you'd still be locked into the same set of instruments most bands have. They will probably sell the heck out of this unit!īut compared to BIAB it is still so far behind in so many ways it's hard to even start counting. This is the first semi-intelligent application I've seen in which the recorded loop automatically selects an appropriate drum and bass groove to go with it. So maybe Jammer triggering EZD would be nice? But that would take some work since EZD is not stand alone so Jammer can't directly trigger EZD.Foot pedals have had the ability for a long time to turn drum and bass grooves off and on. I do think part of it could be the tones it was triggering. I usually ended up stripping out everything except for drums and bass. Jammer did rock pretty well, but it still always sounded canned to me. BiB did jazz great, but not so much for rock. But for the kind of music I want to do, I could never get it to sound right. Yeah, it's a marketing ploy to suck every penny out of us!! ha haĪctually, I have tried Band-in-a-Box and Jammer. They all work together to create the whole. everything is "almost there"! That's why I have Sonar, Band-in-a-Box, JammerPro, EZDrummer, Jamstix2 and Finale 2007. That's the problem (fun) with this profession/hobby. If I had to make a decision, I'd opt for EZD because I prefer to develop my own ideas based of a combination of stock midi grooves, modification of those grooves and custom grooves that I play in using my favorite controller at the moment. (Assuming you've got a lot more patience than me.) What's neat is that Jamstix can feed EZdrummer midi output so you could have the best of both worlds. The size of that library depends on your bank account. EZD makes you make your own decisions about what's going to be played and gives you a library of sounds to choose from. Jamstix generates output based on algorithmns and uses a somewhat lackluster sample set. I've also never heard any user demos that impressed me enough to buy the product.Īll that said, the comparison between EZD and Jamstix is apples to oranges. I think that the idea behind Jamstix is great, I just never could figure out how to tweak the demo to give me anything that I felt was usable. I have bought some nice midi loops, but it is a royal pain to use them. One thing i hate in Sonar is that I can't preview loops. And how important is that? I just want a tool to help me throw togterh great sounding drum tracks quickly. It will even "listen" to what is being played and create a drum track to go with it. I know you are a big EZD user, right? Can you objectively sell me on EZD over Jamstix? It seems like the thing Jamstix has over EZD is the ability to creatae random patterns on the fly. Gee thanks Mod!!!! I NEED a lot of things! ha ha You won't be disappointed with either "Jamstix 2" or EZDrummer", I just prefer Jamstix because of its composition capabilities and support. If you want a program that will create the drum parts for you and has adequate sounding drums (easily better than "TTS-1" and "VSC" and, I think, "Session Drummer"), go with Jamstix 2. If you want a fantastic sounding drum kit that takes some creative juggling of MIDI loops to put your track together, get EZD. Support at Rayzoon is fantastic and the development team will work closely with its customers to correct bugs and add features. Then I "discovered" Jamstix 2! The possibilities with this software are limitless. I've always liked the drum tracks produced by JammerPro (although they all start to sound the same after a while) and thought their new Drummer would work well with EZD to create some fresh drum parts. I have JammerPro and almost went with their new addition:
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